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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Really All About God: A Review — Pomomusings</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-59916</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Really All About God: A Review — Pomomusings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the kingdom of God in the here and now. But that&#8217;s not a very popular idea with some. The blog post I wrote about that idea actually caused a job possibility to not work out (which, not that I can look back [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Pomomusings Year in Review — Pomomusings</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-59705</link>
		<dc:creator>A Pomomusings Year in Review — Pomomusings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] short post about a very cool faith community in Manhattan &#8211; the post that lost me a potential job in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Existential Punk</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-57130</link>
		<dc:creator>Existential Punk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of Pete Rollins and ikon in Belfast, N. Ireland.</description>
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		<title>By: Birthday Questions on Pomomusings&#8217;s 5th Birthday &#124; pomomusings &#124; progressive theology &#38; design</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-56321</link>
		<dc:creator>Birthday Questions on Pomomusings&#8217;s 5th Birthday &#124; pomomusings &#124; progressive theology &#38; design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this probably ended up being a good thing, my Faith House Manhattan post ended up causing me to be questioned/interviewed/interrogated for a full weekend in Berkeley [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Silva</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54734</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony T.,

Wow dude; a little tip for ya, man you really have to keep the potato salad refrigerated!</description>
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<p>Wow dude; a little tip for ya, man you really have to keep the potato salad refrigerated!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Truscott</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54733</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Truscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blessings of Grace and Peace. I am greatly honored to stand on the blood-stained ground next to Samir and Samir&#039;s best Friend Jesus who possesses Samir to emulate Him forever! Show me someone else worthy of our Obssession! Come follow me Jesus says not your own understanding! Trust in the Lord with all your Heart as Samir is bravely doing not your club of cloned self righteous minds hiding in a paranoic fearfilled cave of cognitive self worship begun by Lucifer so long ago. Lean not on your own understanding but surrender all to Jesus alone and pray for/bless/do good to those who have a different attitude/belief/world view to you. Let your light shine for others benefit. Trust in the Lord with all your heart not your own self protective attitudes. Save your life with an arrogant selfish style of &quot;God bless me my wife my son my daughter us four and no more&quot; attitude and you will lose it all. Or as Samir has done take your wife and 2 children on an Abrahamic journey of faith away from the luxuries and safeties of the familiar that the above writers advocate -to a land he knows not where and you will be saved! Like Jesus- acknowledge God by obeying the Holy Spirit as Samir has done -and goling to visit the woman at the well who may think/act/believe different and have a different truth to you and like Jesus ask her for a drink!   Instead of being paralysed by fear of demons wash yourself in the blood of the Lamb and follow Jesus to the cemetery and speak your Truth to the other even a fear inducing demon filled man that all others are afraid to associate with in case they contaminate themselves with error go with Jesus to your demoniacs speak your truth to the other and remember as you enjoy the ensuing hogicide that Jesus builds bridges and satan builds walls to hide fearful of the Light. Rescue the perishing instead of hiding away from your brothers and sisters. Follow Jesus to the cross lay your self righteous filthy rags with me at the foot of the cross and receive a glorious and righteous garment with not one stitch of human devising and go ye into all the world bearing the good news that we are all worse than we want to know about and God is better than we have ever dreamed of and his blood is a gift to whosoever hindu moslem jew chrstian atheist humanist anyone wise enough to believe in Him whose name is life love light bread truth and every good and best thing. Anyone who loves is born of God. Anyone who says they are born of God and does not love is a liar and has no truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blessings of Grace and Peace. I am greatly honored to stand on the blood-stained ground next to Samir and Samir&#8217;s best Friend Jesus who possesses Samir to emulate Him forever! Show me someone else worthy of our Obssession! Come follow me Jesus says not your own understanding! Trust in the Lord with all your Heart as Samir is bravely doing not your club of cloned self righteous minds hiding in a paranoic fearfilled cave of cognitive self worship begun by Lucifer so long ago. Lean not on your own understanding but surrender all to Jesus alone and pray for/bless/do good to those who have a different attitude/belief/world view to you. Let your light shine for others benefit. Trust in the Lord with all your heart not your own self protective attitudes. Save your life with an arrogant selfish style of &#8220;God bless me my wife my son my daughter us four and no more&#8221; attitude and you will lose it all. Or as Samir has done take your wife and 2 children on an Abrahamic journey of faith away from the luxuries and safeties of the familiar that the above writers advocate -to a land he knows not where and you will be saved! Like Jesus- acknowledge God by obeying the Holy Spirit as Samir has done -and goling to visit the woman at the well who may think/act/believe different and have a different truth to you and like Jesus ask her for a drink!   Instead of being paralysed by fear of demons wash yourself in the blood of the Lamb and follow Jesus to the cemetery and speak your Truth to the other even a fear inducing demon filled man that all others are afraid to associate with in case they contaminate themselves with error go with Jesus to your demoniacs speak your truth to the other and remember as you enjoy the ensuing hogicide that Jesus builds bridges and satan builds walls to hide fearful of the Light. Rescue the perishing instead of hiding away from your brothers and sisters. Follow Jesus to the cross lay your self righteous filthy rags with me at the foot of the cross and receive a glorious and righteous garment with not one stitch of human devising and go ye into all the world bearing the good news that we are all worse than we want to know about and God is better than we have ever dreamed of and his blood is a gift to whosoever hindu moslem jew chrstian atheist humanist anyone wise enough to believe in Him whose name is life love light bread truth and every good and best thing. Anyone who loves is born of God. Anyone who says they are born of God and does not love is a liar and has no truth.</p>
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		<title>By: The Universality of (our) Truth &#171; Consider This</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54660</link>
		<dc:creator>The Universality of (our) Truth &#171; Consider This</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Truth and the Christian understanding of truth at some other point — read the comments here if you want more of that) to the detriment of relationships with people. I am not saying that we [...]</description>
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		<title>By: An Unexpected Gift &#124; pomomusings &#124; progressive theology &#38; design</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54649</link>
		<dc:creator>An Unexpected Gift &#124; pomomusings &#124; progressive theology &#38; design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like pluralism and sexuality. My blog was also brought up a few times, specifically my post on Faith House Manhattan. I think if I had not referred to this faith community as &#8220;a beautiful portrait of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like pluralism and sexuality. My blog was also brought up a few times, specifically my post on Faith House Manhattan. I think if I had not referred to this faith community as &#8220;a beautiful portrait of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: myles</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54648</link>
		<dc:creator>myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay--sidestepping the back and forth going on above--I&#039;m nervous when people say stuff like &quot;losing my religion and finding the kingdom of God&quot;, as if the KOG could be something separate from following Christ, and specifically, following in the way of Christ as professed by the church&#039;s Scriptures and confessions. There&#039;s always more light breaking forth, but I&#039;m suspicious of starting with KOG and then trying to work backwards into what Christology means, rather than starting with the origins of the KOG--Christ--and working outwards. 

This isn&#039;t to say that there can&#039;t be all kinds of cooperations or learning from how different traditions practice: Aquinas, for example, wrote the Summa in the context of dialoguing with Averroes, a Muslim interpreter of Aristotle. But that&#039;s a different thing than saying saying that it&#039;s a priori bad to learn from a &quot;like-minded&quot; group. Without formation in one direction, there can be no engagement with anyone else, for we lose anything distinctive that we might offer in conversation, and conversation ultimately disintegrates, leaving us not with &quot;celebrated differences&quot;, but a new, a-morphous like-mindedness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8211;sidestepping the back and forth going on above&#8211;I&#8217;m nervous when people say stuff like &#8220;losing my religion and finding the kingdom of God&#8221;, as if the KOG could be something separate from following Christ, and specifically, following in the way of Christ as professed by the church&#8217;s Scriptures and confessions. There&#8217;s always more light breaking forth, but I&#8217;m suspicious of starting with KOG and then trying to work backwards into what Christology means, rather than starting with the origins of the KOG&#8211;Christ&#8211;and working outwards. </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say that there can&#8217;t be all kinds of cooperations or learning from how different traditions practice: Aquinas, for example, wrote the Summa in the context of dialoguing with Averroes, a Muslim interpreter of Aristotle. But that&#8217;s a different thing than saying saying that it&#8217;s a priori bad to learn from a &#8220;like-minded&#8221; group. Without formation in one direction, there can be no engagement with anyone else, for we lose anything distinctive that we might offer in conversation, and conversation ultimately disintegrates, leaving us not with &#8220;celebrated differences&#8221;, but a new, a-morphous like-mindedness.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54637</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul advises Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:5 that many will have a form of godliness but deny the power of God and in verse 7 he goes on to say that they will be &quot;ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.&quot;  Those who rightly divide the word of God are few and far between these days.  I can&#039;t imagine the sadness that God must have to see His word diluted and twisted and reduced to fit the box that Faith House has created.  Did they not learn from the OT the problem the Israelites were continually warned about: do not be misled by foreign gods.  I guess if the Bible isn&#039;t seen as an authoritative text then it&#039;s warnings would have no merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul advises Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:5 that many will have a form of godliness but deny the power of God and in verse 7 he goes on to say that they will be &#8220;ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.&#8221;  Those who rightly divide the word of God are few and far between these days.  I can&#8217;t imagine the sadness that God must have to see His word diluted and twisted and reduced to fit the box that Faith House has created.  Did they not learn from the OT the problem the Israelites were continually warned about: do not be misled by foreign gods.  I guess if the Bible isn&#8217;t seen as an authoritative text then it&#8217;s warnings would have no merit.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54619</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, god, Gods, gods, one god, two or three gods, it is all nothing more than theological badminton. Only one faith has a Savior, the rest are systems of divine hierarchy devised by the inherent searching of man&#039;s heart and so he invents a divine mirage that seems to soothe his conscience.

If there is a God but He cannot be known then His existence is irrelevant to mankind. If God has not made Himself known, then He cannot be known. Can an ant know a human by his own devices? Jesus was God revealing Himself in an unmistakeable and extraordinary incarnation.

Unless He was just another religious nutcase. You should ask Him, He will tell all who sincerely seek Him through His written revelation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, god, Gods, gods, one god, two or three gods, it is all nothing more than theological badminton. Only one faith has a Savior, the rest are systems of divine hierarchy devised by the inherent searching of man&#8217;s heart and so he invents a divine mirage that seems to soothe his conscience.</p>
<p>If there is a God but He cannot be known then His existence is irrelevant to mankind. If God has not made Himself known, then He cannot be known. Can an ant know a human by his own devices? Jesus was God revealing Himself in an unmistakeable and extraordinary incarnation.</p>
<p>Unless He was just another religious nutcase. You should ask Him, He will tell all who sincerely seek Him through His written revelation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54618</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the correction.  *blush*</description>
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		<title>By: unorthodoxology</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54617</link>
		<dc:creator>unorthodoxology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

I&#039;m not so sure your characterization of Hinduism is exactly correct. Of course, there are myriad strains of the fait, but the Hindus I&#039;ve spoken with and read, particularly Vedananda, speak of the Divine, as the One Ultimate Reality. That&#039;s just what I&#039;ve learned from some conversations with local Hindu monks. So I think we must be careful how we characterize other faiths. For instance, many Muslims would characterize Christianity as tritheistic and we would certainly disagree with that, I think.

True, one God and the same God are completely different ideas. But I also think there are many Gods worshipped in Christianity. The God (my conception of God) I worship differs vastly, I would guess, from the God (my conception of God) worshipped by other Christians. 

Of course, Christianity says there is one God, but the power conventional faith ascribes to the satan, in other religions, make this being a &quot;god.&quot;

Ken, thank you for your comment and concern. I doubt we will see eye to eye on this subject, but I appreciate your willingness to share your faith with me. If indeed you are right, I will trust God that the word spoken by you will not return void. Blessings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure your characterization of Hinduism is exactly correct. Of course, there are myriad strains of the fait, but the Hindus I&#8217;ve spoken with and read, particularly Vedananda, speak of the Divine, as the One Ultimate Reality. That&#8217;s just what I&#8217;ve learned from some conversations with local Hindu monks. So I think we must be careful how we characterize other faiths. For instance, many Muslims would characterize Christianity as tritheistic and we would certainly disagree with that, I think.</p>
<p>True, one God and the same God are completely different ideas. But I also think there are many Gods worshipped in Christianity. The God (my conception of God) I worship differs vastly, I would guess, from the God (my conception of God) worshipped by other Christians. </p>
<p>Of course, Christianity says there is one God, but the power conventional faith ascribes to the satan, in other religions, make this being a &#8220;god.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ken, thank you for your comment and concern. I doubt we will see eye to eye on this subject, but I appreciate your willingness to share your faith with me. If indeed you are right, I will trust God that the word spoken by you will not return void. Blessings.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Silva</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54616</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is one God.&quot; Correct; the one true and living Truine God revealed in the Bible. Therefore the &quot;gods&quot; of all religions do not exist. Religion is only man revealing he knows instinctively there is a God.

&quot;I think that no religion has a complete grasp of all truth, including Christianity.&quot; Your problem is Christianity is not a religion at all; rather, it is a relationship with the only God there is obtained only by God&#039;s grace alone; through faith alone, in Christ alone.

Our Creator, Christ Jesus of Nazareth, is this one God in human flesh and His Spirit wrote the Bible through men like Paul. This means it is God Himself Who informed us through Paul why religious powwows like Selamnovic&#039;s pipe dream are forbidden:  “they sacrifice &lt;b&gt;to demons and &lt;i&gt;not to&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt; God&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons&quot; (1 Corinthians 10:20).

O please tell me that you guys are not actually this spiritually dense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is one God.&#8221; Correct; the one true and living Truine God revealed in the Bible. Therefore the &#8220;gods&#8221; of all religions do not exist. Religion is only man revealing he knows instinctively there is a God.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that no religion has a complete grasp of all truth, including Christianity.&#8221; Your problem is Christianity is not a religion at all; rather, it is a relationship with the only God there is obtained only by God&#8217;s grace alone; through faith alone, in Christ alone.</p>
<p>Our Creator, Christ Jesus of Nazareth, is this one God in human flesh and His Spirit wrote the Bible through men like Paul. This means it is God Himself Who informed us through Paul why religious powwows like Selamnovic&#8217;s pipe dream are forbidden:  “they sacrifice <b>to demons and <i>not to</i><i> God</i></b>; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons&#8221; (1 Corinthians 10:20).</p>
<p>O please tell me that you guys are not actually this spiritually dense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54615</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@unorthodoxology: I agree with you.  I think that no religion has a complete grasp of all truth, including Christianity.  There&#039;s certainly a lot of truth Christians can gain from Islam, Buddhism, etc.

I also agree that it&#039;s easy, generally, to say there is one God.  Of course, certain religions would see this statement as false, such as Hinduism, but for the sake of argument we can agree that Islam says there is one God, Judaism says there is one God and Christianity says there is one God.  The problem arises when we change the wording or the meaning of &quot;one God&quot; to &quot;the same God.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@unorthodoxology: I agree with you.  I think that no religion has a complete grasp of all truth, including Christianity.  There&#8217;s certainly a lot of truth Christians can gain from Islam, Buddhism, etc.</p>
<p>I also agree that it&#8217;s easy, generally, to say there is one God.  Of course, certain religions would see this statement as false, such as Hinduism, but for the sake of argument we can agree that Islam says there is one God, Judaism says there is one God and Christianity says there is one God.  The problem arises when we change the wording or the meaning of &#8220;one God&#8221; to &#8220;the same God.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: unorthodoxology</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54614</link>
		<dc:creator>unorthodoxology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference between saying all religions have an equal hold on truth and saying that no religion has a complete hold on truth. I think the latter is likely the emphasis for this ministry. To say that all religions have an equal hold on truth leads to meaningless conversation. To say that no religion has an absolute hold on truth leads to critical self-examination in light of opposing thoughts and views. 

Also, what part of there being one God over all is contradictory with traditional Christianity? The statement, as it stands, would seem to agree with even exclusivist stances. There is one world. There is one God. The problem comes when we *interpret* what they are saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference between saying all religions have an equal hold on truth and saying that no religion has a complete hold on truth. I think the latter is likely the emphasis for this ministry. To say that all religions have an equal hold on truth leads to meaningless conversation. To say that no religion has an absolute hold on truth leads to critical self-examination in light of opposing thoughts and views. </p>
<p>Also, what part of there being one God over all is contradictory with traditional Christianity? The statement, as it stands, would seem to agree with even exclusivist stances. There is one world. There is one God. The problem comes when we *interpret* what they are saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54609</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eddie: I agree. Those statements flirt too closely with Universalism and/or Unitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eddie: I agree. Those statements flirt too closely with Universalism and/or Unitarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54607</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In looking at the webpage of Faith house here are some glaring problems that can be seen right away.....These are cut and pasted directly from their website:

&quot;Faith House will seek to bring progressive Jews, Christians, Muslims, and spiritual seekers of no faith to become an interfaith community for the good of the world.  We have one world and one God.&quot;

The problem with this is that last sentence.  The God of Christianity is not the same as the god of Islam, Hinduism, or any other religion.

&quot;  I assume that God is in “the other” too, not in an exclusive possession of my group.&quot;

No...God is not in the other

&quot;We will not seek to establish one generic religion in the house.  Instead, we will seek to establish one humanity that serves one God with many voices.&quot;

Question here is which God will the one humanity serve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In looking at the webpage of Faith house here are some glaring problems that can be seen right away&#8230;..These are cut and pasted directly from their website:</p>
<p>&#8220;Faith House will seek to bring progressive Jews, Christians, Muslims, and spiritual seekers of no faith to become an interfaith community for the good of the world.  We have one world and one God.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem with this is that last sentence.  The God of Christianity is not the same as the god of Islam, Hinduism, or any other religion.</p>
<p>&#8221;  I assume that God is in “the other” too, not in an exclusive possession of my group.&#8221;</p>
<p>No&#8230;God is not in the other</p>
<p>&#8220;We will not seek to establish one generic religion in the house.  Instead, we will seek to establish one humanity that serves one God with many voices.&#8221;</p>
<p>Question here is which God will the one humanity serve?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Mc</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54599</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 12:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem seems to be the belief that having faith in faith is the goal rather than having faith in God. As Mr. Senz said in his comment (albeit to make a different point), EC guys seem to be intelligent people. That is why I find their acceptance of any belief as truth to be so baffling. The implication is that we can believe in whatever god we choose, and somehow all be right in what we believe. This doesn&#039;t work. Just because we believe something, that doesn&#039;t make it so.

Add to the fact that problem that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, for example, all claim exclusivity. In their sacred literature, and in their doctrines, each of these religions claim to be the only religion and warn against other beliefs. So, we must either accept one of these as true, or reject them all as untrue. There is no third option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem seems to be the belief that having faith in faith is the goal rather than having faith in God. As Mr. Senz said in his comment (albeit to make a different point), EC guys seem to be intelligent people. That is why I find their acceptance of any belief as truth to be so baffling. The implication is that we can believe in whatever god we choose, and somehow all be right in what we believe. This doesn&#8217;t work. Just because we believe something, that doesn&#8217;t make it so.</p>
<p>Add to the fact that problem that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, for example, all claim exclusivity. In their sacred literature, and in their doctrines, each of these religions claim to be the only religion and warn against other beliefs. So, we must either accept one of these as true, or reject them all as untrue. There is no third option.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://pomomusings.com/2008/05/08/faith-house-manhattan/#comment-54597</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 04:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Senz,

There is no debating with Mr. Silva. Many have tried and just as many have failed. Look at his website forum if you need evidence of this. 

Knowing there is to be no conversation with Mr. Silva, I am left with three options:

1. Ignore him.  Why I didn&#039;t do this: lack of self-control. I was seething at his  
    instant and absolute condemnation of Faith House. I had to say something. It&#039;s a 
    &#039;youth&#039; thing. I hope to be over it in a few years. 

2. Swear at him. Why I didn&#039;t do this: utilization of existing self-control. 

3. Sarcasm.  My personal (albeit flawed) via media. 

Maybe one day I will be the kind of person who can offer a blessing to the Mr. Silvas of this world. I&#039;m just not there yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Senz,</p>
<p>There is no debating with Mr. Silva. Many have tried and just as many have failed. Look at his website forum if you need evidence of this. </p>
<p>Knowing there is to be no conversation with Mr. Silva, I am left with three options:</p>
<p>1. Ignore him.  Why I didn&#8217;t do this: lack of self-control. I was seething at his<br />
    instant and absolute condemnation of Faith House. I had to say something. It&#8217;s a<br />
    &#8216;youth&#8217; thing. I hope to be over it in a few years. </p>
<p>2. Swear at him. Why I didn&#8217;t do this: utilization of existing self-control. </p>
<p>3. Sarcasm.  My personal (albeit flawed) via media. </p>
<p>Maybe one day I will be the kind of person who can offer a blessing to the Mr. Silvas of this world. I&#8217;m just not there yet.</p>
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